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and extras. thanks for joining us here in "the war room." i'll be back at 9:00 eastern with john fugelsang for a look at this historic memorable day. we'll see you back here tomorrow. [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ]
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[ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome to the "the young turks." i think there was a little bit of a political event the inauguration of the president. of course, how did it go? we'll give you both sides. >> obama: my fellow americans we are made for this moment, and we will seize it so long as we seize it together. >> cenk: oh, together with the republicans. no, some good moments and not so great moments in the speech and over all day we'll give you all of that, and there was one person who was definitely not happy with what went down. his brother dr. cornell west. >> when i got the news that my dear brother barack obama president obama, was going to put his hand on martin luther king jr.'s bible i got upset. >> cenk: why did he get upset?
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we'll explain. and lupe fiasco. a wrapper we've had on the show. they were not happy with him either. he was thrown out of a party. for this. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: is he right? practice the partywere the partyers right? that's what we discuss on this show. that's exactly why it's go time. >> cenk: you know how these inauguration events go. there's a lot of talk about this is the moment. in fact, give me a moment here. oh there it is. there is the president and first lady walking down the street.
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now, this always makes me nervous. god bless them for walking down the street. at some point you got to get in the car. it makes everybody in the country nervous. it's great that they're walking along and great that there was a lot of security. now, of course there was some good moments in the speech. first as always president obama trying to hit that middle ground. >> we have never relinquished our skepticism of central authority. nor have we succumbed to the fiction that all society's ills can be cured through government alone. >> cenk: as usual, i like government but not too much. there were great moments in the speech. including this one. >> obama: we the people declared today that the most evident of truths, that all of us are created equal. it's the star that guides us still just as it guided our forebears through seneca falls
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and just as it guided all those women sung and unsung who left theirs footprints here on washington mall, to hear a king proclaim that our inextricable freedom. >> cenk: he connected it to the civil rights and women's rights m. that was a moment today and one you should soak in. there were moments that i thought were--let's just put it this way ironic. >> obama: this generation of americans has been tested by crises that test our resolve and prove our resilience. the decade of war is just ending. >> cenk: only if it were so. there was recently a statement put out that basically the war on terror will continue
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indefinitely at least for another ten years but probably much longer than that, and by the way we had another drone strike in yemen today as president obama was saying that the war is coming to an end interesting. and then here is the issue of politics and the central theme of the campaign. remember how paul ryan and mitt romney talked about the takers? well the president addressed that. >> obama: we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives any one of us at any time may face a job loss or a sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid, and social security, these things do not sap our initiative they strengthen us. [applause] they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> cenk: see, that right there is the moment of the speech.
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because if you listen to it, it sounds great. if he follows through and protects medicare, social security and medicaid fantastic. that's why he won the election, and he's repeating it again. but look at the reaction. in the middle of that speech he's negotiating with the republicans on possibly reducing medicare medicaid and possibly reducing social security. i'll judge him by his actions not on his words, even though they were great today. final one classic president obama, and what he emphasizeed throughout the campaign, for better or for worse, i like the words. let's see if he follows through on action. here he is again. >> obama: fidelity to our found founding principles requires new responses to our new challenges, preserveing individual freedom ultimately requires collective action. now more than ever we must do
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these things together as one nation, one people. my fellow americans we are made for this moment, and we will see so long as we seize it together. >> cenk: this moment, i hope so. i hope we can seize it together. the republicans, of course, have not always been willing to work together. that's not how president obama deals with it. that's an interesting topic one that we'll discuss not only today but throughout, and the president on a good-news front has a new strategy which is not to rely on the republicans so much. here, here on that. we'll bring in a couple of experts, michael shure, our own epics politics man and joe williams dc reporter and commentator, it's great to have both of you guys on. joe, let me start with you first. what is your over all take on the speech. does it show that the president is going to be more aggressive in his second term or is it the usual stuff? >> i think it signals that he's
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going to be more aggressive in the second term. you heard him mention some things that we haven't heard him talk about before. he talked about climate change. he talked about voting rights. he also talked about trying to protect the elderly and the most vulnerable. these are things that we heard from the president long term but we have not heard them talked in a way in a national address. we've seen e-mails go out to campaign supporters. they're trying to organize america into an action committee, and he's relying on legacy, the one thing that he had not had to consider in the last two years or last four years over his first term. >> you know, joe that's a good point. he mentioned all these things that are really positives for progressives. you have gay rights. you have the issues you were discussing and you also add immigration. for both of you let's lay play a
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clip on immigration throughout the street. >> obama: our journey is not a better way until we find a way to welcome the striving those who still see america as the land of opportunity. bright young engineers in our workforce rather than expelled from our country. >> cenk: michael, we're in the situation where the words do seem good, and they do seem positive, but i've also seen progressives throughout today saying well, it's nice, but we've heard these words before. are we going to get action? >> well, cenk, i couldn't help but watch the inaugural speech and think what are you going to say, cenk. this is not so bad. i'm very proud of you. >> cenk: thank you. >> to answer your question a little bit there is a backdrop to this speech. the backdrop to this speech is the fact that he was strong on the debt ceiling and has been strong on the debt cereal something far. he was strong on gun rights.
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he came out worried about legacy and he's going to build the legacy through strength. i understand why people are dubious, but this was a magnificent speech in that it was about "we," other people. you talk about immigration you talk about a poet of cube an disaccidentdissent who is gay. he talked about stone wall and seneca walls and selma benchmark historical moments for women, black americans gay americans, this was a spectacular speech because of that. it is words but i think he's starting to see the "we" in this and he wants to lead all of us. >> cenk: i saw your tweet from earlier saying if this was for mitt romney you wouldn't here about seneca or selma that's a good point. here is a clip that sounds perfectly good but there is one
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big issue if you ask me. let's watch it together. >> obama: we must act knowing that our work will be imperfect. we must act knowing today's victories will only be partial, and it will be up to those who stand here in four years and 40 years, and 400 years hence to advance the timeless spirit once conferred to us in a spare philadelphia hall. >> cenk: by itself that's perfectly good, and there are a lot of partial victories and rome was not built in a day. i'm afraid president obama will get a couple of partial victories and i'll let the president 400 years from now handle it. tell me i'm overreading into it. joe, step in. >> okay, you're overreading it. no, i think what you have is a very--you're absolutely right. there are some partial victories. there are a lot of half measures we saw in the first term, the affordable care act being front and center for progressives, and the biggest issue why they're
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cynical about the second term. but you have two things here that you didn't have back then. the first is a president with a second term agenda where he doesn't have to worry about half measures. the second thing is you have a got a president who is been educated, some say through a hard way through an intransijent congress one who is figuring out how to use the leaver levers of power. one thing that struck me when looking at the people at the mall and going back and forth living to the inaugural address was how diverse it was and how enthusiastic it was. and people were estimated 600,000 to 800,000. that's a lot of people. that's a lot of power to put behind tim. he used it on the debt ceiling
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i expect to see him use it going forward. >> cenk: it is about the start and they are right about executive orders especially on climate change. that's exactly what we're going to talk about in the next segment. we'll talk about the new president obama taking executive action. we'll discuss that when we return. >> obama: some may still deny the overwhelming science but no one can avoid the raging fires, crippling drought and more powerful storms.
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we have a big big hour and the iq will go way up. (vo) current tv gets the converstion started weekdays at 9am eastern. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. >> the troops love me. (vo) tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >> you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv. >> cenk: we're back on "the young turks." the better moments during the speech for president obama was when he talked about climate change with stronger words than expected. let's watch some of that. >> obama: we will respond to the threat of climate change knowing thatthat not to do would threaten our children and future
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generations. [applause] some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms. >> cenk: well, i wouldn't say noncodeny it. i'm sure some of the republicans can defly it, but it was great to see him mention that and push that agenda forward. of course he's right. we have the hottest year on record by a significant amount. you have a summer drought that covered 65% of the u.s. we have a mississippi drought significantly challenging commerce in the area. we have record low arctic sea ice. we had hurricane sandy and the national climate assessment report says this, quote, summers are longer and hotter and periods of extreme heat last longer than any living american has ever experienced. winters are generally shorter and warmer. rain comes in heavier downpours though in many region there is are longer dry spells in
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between. obviously the news is not good. that's a combination of over 100 scientists that agree to that. that report is coming out soon. let's bring out an expert, michael brun. i take it you're going to one of the balances. >> i am, cenk, thank you for having me on the show. >> cenk: no problem. maybe you got dressed up for us, which would be awesome. you would be the first. all right, let's talk about the president's speech on climate change. let me give you one more clip, michael, and get you're assessment of this. >> obama: the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult. but america cannot resist this transition. we must lead it. we can't cede to other nations the technology that willpower new jobs and new industry, we must claim it's promise. that's how we will maintain our economic vitality and our national treasure. a forest and waterways our crop
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lands and snow capped peaks. >> cenk: so michael, first off were you encouraged by these portions of the speech? >> yes, i was encouraged. i was inspired. i thought it was a great speech. you know, i thought what the president did really well was he talked about fighting climate disruption both as moral obligation, but he also pointed out that transitioning to clean energy is a great economic opportunity. it's not just an obligation that we have for future generations. it's an opportunity that we have right now to move beyond dirty fuel. i thought the president did a great job. >> cenk: all right michael, we know that it wasn't just words in this case, because "the new york times" with a story about how the president is going to take executive action. let me give a list of some of the things he's going do. reduce coal emissions from coal power plants and then get applianceapplyefficiency as he has
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done with automobiles, and then reduce military emissions and capital capitalize on the gas boom. how are you encouraged by those moves? >> i think almost all those moves are really good. what we need to do in almost every sector of the economy is move beyond our dependence on fossil fuel and invest in in clean energies instead. every time we do that we'll put more people to work, we'll cut emissions, and we'll keep our air clean and water safe. if we keep jesting in dirty fuel projects whether it's the tar sands from canada or the coal in the pacific northwest or fracking in west virginia, ohio and mission. michigan. the more we do what we're doing
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the more we'll stay stuck in the fossil fuel economy. >> cenk: you mentioned the sand stone there. >> when you hear a speech like the president made today it becomes clear that he's committed to fighting climate change. the first test, the first big test that the president will have is whether to approve or reject this pipeline. i'm confident that he'll reject it. i really am. you simply cannot be committed to fighting climate change and then simultaneously invest in the most dirty carbon-intensive oil source on the planet. this is the first test for the president whether he or not he's invested in climate change. if you believe the sincerity behind what he was saying then you got to believe that he'll reject this pipeline and show his true commitment to clean energy. >> cenk: here is the question.
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if the president approves the pipeline and then says guys, be cool i'm doing all these executive orders for the things you like, so let's just play ball what will be the reaction of the sierra club? >> it won't work. let's get real. we have to get real here. you talked at the beginning of the show about how climate change already has contributed to record wildfires. two-thirds of our country was facing severe, crippling drought. we have had super storm sandy a thousand mile-diameter hit the coast. that is just one degree of warning. we could see four, five, six degrees in this century. we cannot be committed to fighting climate change and stabilizing our climate and simultaneously investing in massive fossil fuel projects. when we say this is a test of
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the president's commitment, we mean it. the sierra club and all of our allies are putting enormous resources into this fight to show the president that we have his back when he invests in if clean energy, and we are not going to stand for any more massive investments in fossil fuels that take us way back from where we need to go. >> cenk: michael, my main question here is what happens if you gives you half a loaf again? >> what we want to do is challenge and support the president to achieve his climate agenda. on february 17th we'll be mobilizing sierra club volunteers and members. we're working with phil kibbet and 350.org . we're bringing to washington, d.c. tens of thousands of people to show president obama that we're committed to action on climate change. we believe he'll reject the tar sands pipeline. we believe he's sincere in his
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commitment to clean energy. i can talk after the president makes his decision on this about what the consequences of that decision will be but we'll put everything that we have into this fight to make sure that my kids all of our kids and grandkids can grow up on a planet with a stable climate and we're determined to succeed and we believe we will. >> cenk: really interesting conversation, and i'm curious to see how things are going to go down the road, if president obama rejects the keystone pipeline everyone will be happy and along with the executive orders it will seem like we have a new president obama than the one we had in the first term. that will be positive, and that's what we're rooting for here. if he doesn't then we're going to have a really interesting question and i would love to see your reaction then as well. thank you for joining us on "the young turks." we really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. on your show. >> cenk: when we come back, tomorrow is the 40th anniversary
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of roe v. wade. we're going to talk to one of the last abortion doctors in the state of mississippi. >> doctors who perform abortions in mississippi must be board certified obgyn and also have privileges at local hospital to admit patients if necessary. the pomp, the circumstance the insight and analysis. current tv presents the presidential inauguration plus insight into obama's second term. only on current tv.
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the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: welcome back to "the young turks." tomorrow will be the 40th anniversary of roe v. wade. what has happened to the american people? they have become accustomed to it and 63% of americans say they would be opposed to overturning the roe v. wade.
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back in 2011 they broke the amount of laws that were limiting abortion. you see 92, which is gigantic. now in 2012 well, it's been down to 43. those 43 are now centered on six states, and of course there are some red states that are trying to take away rights. now this is an interesting stat as well. this is the most interesting one. hey, do you think abortion should be legal or not? 52% say it should be legal under certain circumstances. 25% said legal in all cases and 20% wanted flat-out outlawed. that means only 20% of the country, one in five actually want abortion to be illegal under all circumstances. overturn roe v. wade. that's a tiny minority. you have 77% saying they are, in
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fact, pro-choice. when you say legal under certain circumstances. that makes you pro-choice. that mean you're in favor of roe v. wade after all. the country is on our sides and on the side of the legislatures, not so much. now in mississippi they're trying to eliminate abortion. they can't make it illegal but they can limit access to it. >> reporter: the signs are hard to miss outside the only clinic offering abortion in the state of mississippi. now the director of the jackson women's health organization is up for a legal fight to keep the doors open despite the letter she got in the mail. >> we're licensed. >> the paper could be worthless if she fails to comply with a new state law effective july 1st. doctors who perform abortions must be board certified obgyn
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and have privileges at local hospitals to admit patients if necessary. >> cenk: they mentioned in that cnn documentary they mention there may be 12 or 20--do you know how many doctors perform abortions in mississippi two. that is it. one of them is dr. willie parker. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thanks, cenk, for having me. >> cenk: now, you actually live in illinois, and go all the way down to mississippi to do this. why do you do that? >> well, cenk, i recently relocated here in d.c. to illinois, but i began to travel to mississippi primarily because i believe it's the woman's fundamental right to have access to abortion care. in my opinion abortion healthcare. being from the south i grew up in birmingham, alabama. it became clear to me that there was one clinic in the state of mississippi, and given that it's
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a woman's right between her and her healthcare provider, there was one clinic and at that time one doctor providing services led me to being committed to traveling to mississippi to serve the women from my region of the country because without access to providers who provide the care, roe v. wade means nothing if there is no one there to provide the care. >> cenk: it's an interesting story that people may not be familiar with. you were opposed to doing abortions earlier in your career. what changed your mind. >> i grew up in the south and i had a very traditional understanding. i'm a spiritual person and i had traditional spiritual understanding, and in that understanding initially for me it was a question of my own morality about whether or not to provide the service once i decide to become a physician. i never questioned a woman's right to choose but over time i wrestled with this, and after 12 years of having patients presented to me with unplanned
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unwanted pregnancies or flawed pregnancies due to an abnormality, i no longer sympathized with those women but concerned if there was nowhere to go. reversing the question of concern, i became more concerned about what happens to women if there is no providing than what might happen to me for providing the service. ten years ago i began to provide abortion care as part of my practice as an obgyn. >> cenk: let's stay on that for a second. you were worried. you were a spiritual person and you were worried what with happen to you do you mean what would happen to your soul, etc.? and then when you say to the women, no matter what happens to me i got to help these people. >> well, my concern as most people are who are spiritual we
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have to work out those issues for ourselves. when i speak of concern i was well aware of being an obgyn for 20 years of the intense had harassment that doctors who perform abortions face. when i made the decision i was fully aware that there were extreme views on this issue and that some people feel empowered to act out those extreme screw views. when i said i was concerned it was for risk of physical harm. but what became the turning point for actually providing the care i became uncomfortable having to turn women away when in every other aspect of their reproductive healthcare i was provideprepared to provide services
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for them. after a lot of soul searching for me it was no longer a moral issue about providing it. i became uncomfortable not providing it and became more concerned about the women i had to turn away than again what it meant for me morally and even with regard to safety. >> all right now of course a lot of obg gns don't agree with you. one came out and talked about how todd aiken might be right when he said the body has a way of shutting things down if it's a legitimate rape. let me show you what the representative said on that. >> he's partly right on that. i've been an obgyn doctor for a long time, since 1975. i delivered lots of babies and i know about these things. it is true. we tell infertile couples all the time who are having trouble conceiving because of--because
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of the woman not ovulateing just relax. drink a glass of wine. and don't be so tense and up tight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate. >> cenk: does he have any idea what he's talking about? >> well, i'll say i heard those remarks, and i was very disturbed. i'll just say that as a fog and a scientist who is committed to evidence-based medical practice, i'm quite surprised that the representative would make such statements that are not rooted in scientific evidence. i can say that as someone who has also done work respond to go sexual assault his remarks sounded strangely akin to victim-blaming. so i don't know what his evidencary basis is, but i know
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with evidence-based medicine none of the things he said was rooted in fact. >> cenk: one other thing if they shut down this clinic in mississippi with he's regulations meant to limit abortion, what happens to the women in mississippi? >> well, i would like to be hopeful that we will be able to prevail and keep abortion legal and safe for women. women will not stop having abortions. women will not stop seeking abortion care. for those women who can travel they will go outside of the state. but for the most vulnerable women, many who live in poverty women of color, that clinic is the only resource they have to access safe confidential abortion care. if that clinic closes, women will be forced to continue pregnancies they never intended. then there is a whole host of consequences that are indicators of public health that no one is talking about like the high
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infant mortality rate in mississippi. the highest occur to go black women will maybe increase. the high inmortalty rate may increase. those are possibilities that i don't want to explore. i'm hopeful that we'll prevail and keep abortion safe and legal in that state. >> cenk: dr. willie parker, thank you for joining us on "the young turks"." >> thanks, cenk, for having me. >> cenk: now when we come back, brother cornell is not happy with brother obama. and he'll let us know about it. >> so the righteous indignation of martin luther king jr. becomes a moment in political calculation, and that makes my blood boil.
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>> obama: we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. >> cenk: well, the inauguration coinciding with martin luther king jr. day, of course, led president obama to start his speech in that way and to emphasize that theme throughout. and it's also because he believes it and he's taking action in that direction let's hear more. >> obama: we affirm the promise of our democracy. we were called at what binds this nation together are not the colors of our skin or the
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tenants of our faith or the origins of our names. >> cenk: i have heard some of that before, now here comes the really interesting part, where he's going to connect women's rights, civil rights and gay rights. this is the first in an inauguration speech for a president. >> obama: our journey is not complete until our wives mothers and daughters can earn a living equal to their efforts. our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated equally under the law. if we're truly created equal then we all must be created equally as well. >> cenk: let's bring in chris geithner, and michael shure is our top political correspondent and we'll bring jayar jackson in the conversation as well.
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chris, let me start with you. how important was the mention of gay rights in the inauguration speech? >> i think that was a very important moment for lgbt advocates, for the country and certainly for the president. it established that president obama considers this issue to be important enough to make it a part of his legacy. this was his second inaugural. it is his last inaugural and he included that as a prominent part of it. i think he's staking out that ground, something that he wants to be remembered for in time. >> cenk: i agree with that, but michael again as you're used to, let me bring in cynicism here. one out of the top five bundlers for president obama were people who believed in gay rights, gay marriage. that's a great thing. as a progressive i actually believe in that, and i'm thrilled he has gone in that direction. could that have influenced his
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strong stance on it today. >> it doesn't matter cenk. it doesn't matter at all. if that's what it took to get him there it got him there. your cynicism is fine, but the point is it went down in the history books. today he was the first person to use the word "gay" in an inaugural speech. however ugly it is in getting there, it doesn't matter. >> cenk: i get that point. if you watch lynn lincoln, it's not like the 13th amendment is pretty. i'm thrilled with the progressive ending, don't get me wrong. some people are less than thrilled to seeing president obama using martin luther king jr.'s bible. >> when i got the news that my dear brother, barack obama was going to hut his precious hand on martin luther king jr.'s bible, i got upset.
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>> brother martin luther king jr. what would you say about the new jim crow? what would you say about the industrial complex, what would you say about the invisibility of so many of our prisoners so many of our incarcerated, especially when 62% of them are there for soft drugs but not one executive for the wall street bank going to jail. [applause] not one. ! martin doesn't like that. not one wiretapper not one torcher under the bush administration at all. then what do you say about the drones being dropped on our precious brothers and sisters in pakistan somalia and yemen. >> cenk: dr. cornell west said that on thursday in poverty in america panel. chris, do you think that is a fair criticism? >> i think those criticisms have been raised throughout the campaign by the liberal critics of the president and i think
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also by some more libertarians critics of the president. they will continue to be raised so long as the administration engages in policies that seem to run counter to other statements that he's made, and statements that he made in his 2008 election run. >> cenk: michael, of course, some people think it's too harsh. what is your take on it? >> yeah, i think it's too harsh. if you look at it going back to what today was it was king holiday. he's using king's bible. he is the first president of color in our history. he is the fruition for everything that martin luther king jr. dreamt of. is he everything? no. no one can be everything. you were talking earlier, cenk about the imperfections, we may not get done everything that we want to do. the very same speech that king made in the march in washington, he said i may not get there with
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you, but we as a people will get there. this was a we as a people day. i understand that some of his criticisms are valid but it's not a parade literally to be rained on. >> but i do think that it's true that cornell west has decided he wants to play a role in this administration as a critic of the president. >> cenk: but i think that's important. >> if there is going to be someone who is going to do it, it's going to be west. >> cenk: i think that's important. >> that's where the gray area comes in. dr. king wanted a certain person in office but not strictly based on color but what he does. it's not based on color but what he does. cornell was not saying you shouldn't swear on the bible but you can't say that but not carry it out with fruition.
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>> cenk: you thought that dr. west went too far before. you largely agree with him. >> no matter after that, anything he says is valid isn't this the crazy guy? you don't want to listen to what he has to say. now let's not let his good comments go to waste. >> cenk: we have to leave it there. chris geithner, michael shure thanks so much, guys, great conversation. >> thank you. >> cenk: now when we come back, well lupe fiasco is a guy we've had on this show. they invited him invited him to sing, it was anti-obama. [ ♪ singing ♪ ] the sirius xm satellite radio in the 2013 ram 1500.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right, we've got our "the young turks" panel here
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today, jayar jackson hermela and mo brown jarvis from jack and jill is joining us through slightly. lupe fiasco was invited to perform one of his songs. apparently they didn't like that. here's what he says in the sponge. ♪ limb limbaugh is a racist ♪ glenn beck is a racist ♪ gaza strip was getting bombed ♪ obama didn't say [ bleep ] ♪ >> apparently lupe is not a fan of the president. here is a tweet that the sponsors wrote. disappointed that an artist took an opportunity to use an event celebrating invasion and startups to make political statement. isn't that what the inauguration
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inauguration is, a political moment. let's get start with whether lupe was right or wrong. hehe repeat the song for 30 or 40 seconds. >> it does not sound like a fun concert, but he was the featured artist. my question is who did they think they were booking. >> all they had to do was google the name and all these articles will come up. >> cenk: our interview would have come up. >> that would have come up. i like--i think he makes some valid points, but his approach is just always wrong. he means well, but i really had a problem with him encouraging people not to vote rather than encouraging people to inform themselves and vote for the best possible candidate. he means well but he goes about it a little weird. >> cenk: let me throw this out there for everybody. do you think he kept repeating the song to get kicked out? >> that's what it seems like.
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he knows it, but he'll come to the event and do it. it's great, it's fine. it's not like it's one of those situation where is that's all he's known for or the rabid obama hater. he's going to make a point he'll get kicked out for it. i don't hear him being upset about it right now. >> eventually he will not be invited to these events, and he's not going to have a platform. that's what i think he doesn't understand. >> cenk: i understand you. >> can i speak here for a moment? sometimes these organizers plan events that they think is hot and cool. lupe is from chicago. they may not know what they were getting into, which someone made the point. but it was an inauguration. it was a great day. it was a great day about celebrating freedom of speech and the rights and liberties that we have as american. yes, it was a bit unconventional, but that was his right. he might have been catering to
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his fan base. i didn't hear a lot about the crowd reaction but he's always been politically vocal through his music. this is just where he is at as an artist. i don't think we should say it's a faux pas on the part of the planning committee. >> cenk: i think he was doing a stephen colbert when he he said, here take this, and throwing a proverbial pie in their face. and lupe is political. >> he had a huge stage. he's headlineer for the show. lupe fiasco knew what he was doing but we stand by his right to do it. >> cenk: by the way one of the people there tweeted out the corporate sponsors are not happy. i guess that is a sad day. it made me go to lupe's site and say, go get 'em. if you saw it, beyonce comes out
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and does the "stars spangled banner" and knocks it out of the park, but now they're saying she was trying to steal the spotlight. >> she gets her beyonce on. when she comes out to the crowd she's like that, but i love that about her. that's who she is in this administration. >> that's what she's known for. her songs are very diva liscious. >> she's an entertainer, a friend of the white house. she also represents something that is kind of great about this day as well. you have this woman of color who is up on the stage performing for the president. that too kind of solidifies historic moment. >> cenk: absolutely. thank you guys. they also raised $4 million for obama. that didn't hurt. we'll be right back.
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